Cross-border Workers’ Compensation a Reality in California

I received an email Friday from one of my LinkedIn connections, Joe Burgess, Senior Executive Vice President for CHSI in Las Vegas. Joe and I had connected back in January, and he mentioned at that time the name of a company called SIMNSA. He informed me that SIMNSA had started a project in regard to cross-border health care for workers’ comp into Mexico. This was in response to my inquiry into any work his company may have been doing with cross-border health care for workers’ comp, since his company is based in the Southwest.

So on Friday, Joe was kind enough to send me a link to a website called Workers’ Comp Executive. The link was a video on that website hosted by the publisher of Workers’ Comp Executive, Dale Debber. Joe told me that this was a program that his company was pushing for the WC self-insured group they used to manage.  He indicated that the self-insured group did not go with it at the time (and may have since) but a company called Insurance Company of the West (ICW) did, which is the subject of the video.

Without going into great length about what is on the video, since it is thirty minutes long, I will just give you a brief description of what came about from the first few minutes of the video, and I will let you decide if you want to watch the video in its entirety.

Dale, the publisher of Workers’ Comp Executive interviews Paul Zamora, Senior V.P. for Workers’ Comp for ICW, and as Paul explains, the idea to explore cross-border health care for the employees of ICW’s San Diego area insured clients came from an agent for Alliant Insurance, Larry Osborne. As Paul tells Dale, SIMNSA is providing many of the businesses in the San Diego area that have employees who live in Mexico, but commute to work in CA, as their HMO, since SIMNSA is the first and only Mexican HMO licensed in CA to offer an HMO product.

The employees are given the option of choosing SIMNSA or any other company for their employee health care plan. And it was Larry Osborne who said to Paul, why can’t they do that for workers’ comp. ICW was a little sceptical at first, but their legal team said that they did not give up their right to control medical, if they were using a non-CA domiciled company. They were told no, they do have the right to have their primary care doctor in CA, and outsource services elsewhere.

At this point, Dale interrupts Paul to ask a very good question. “Does that mean that the utilization review is being conducted here in CA under the control of ICW, but the treatment is on-going in Mexico for those who choose that?” Paul replies that that is correct, and then explains that if an employee is injured, first he will see a primary treating physician in CA who is familiar with SIMNSA, then all future treatment if there is any, is via SIMNSA, with follow-up visits on a routine basis with their primary care physician here.Paul goes on to say that it is the employee’s choice, and that at no time do they tell an insured that they have to have their employees treated by SIMNSA. It is always the employee’s choice to use SIMNSA.

Currently, this program is only in the San Diego/Imperial County area, as Paul tells Dale, because companies in other areas do not have employees that commute for work to CA from Mexico. Paul goes on to say that the quality of care is very good, and there are excellent doctors in Mexico, and that it is very convenient for the worker to be treated in Mexico.

Dale then asks Paul about the fee schedule and he wanted to know if it was an advantage for the employer, and as Paul explains, they were able to negotiate with SIMNSA a better fee schedule because their costs were lower.

I am going to stop here and let you watch the video yourself, so that you can decide if this is something your company would like to do, whether you are an insurance carrier, employer, self-insured employer, etc. But it appears to me that as the workforce in the US grows more Latino and Caribbean, these kinds of programs will be more common, and in many cases, for lower cost surgical care than what is available currently here in the US. It’s up to you…higher cost surgery with not so good outcomes here, or lower cost surgery with better outcomes in a medical tourism destination facility in the region.


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Have worked in the Insurance and Risk Management industry for more than thirty years in New York, Florida and Texas in the Claims and Risk Management spheres, primarily in Workers’ Compensation Claims, Auto No-Fault and Property & Casualty Claims Administration and Claims Management. Have experience in Risk and Insurance Business Analysis, Risk Management Information Systems, and Insurance Data Processing and Data Management. Received my Master’s in Health Administration (MHA) degree from Florida Atlantic University in Boca Raton, Florida in December 2011. Received my Master of Arts (MA) degree in American History from New York University, and received my Bachelor of Arts (BA) degree in Liberal Arts (Political Science/History/Social Sciences) from SUNY Brockport. I have studied World History, Global Politics, and have a strong interest in the future of human civilization in all aspects; economic, political and social. I am looking for new opportunities that will utilize my previous experience and MHA degree. I am available for speaking engagements and am willing to travel. LinkedIn Profile: Resume:

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